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Models for the Old Admin Development?

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This entry was posted on 9/9/2006 11:10 AM and is filed under Amenities.

When Leisure World was first developed, a series of models were built and made available for new purchasers. Some of these were located in the area where Circuit City now stands. Has anyone wondered where there might be a location for building models for the new development now being built on the Old Admin Site?

Well, there has been discussion on leasing some area to the developer in the vicinity of Clubhouse 7. The last discussion on this possibility was a resounding/mediocre/whimpy, "No!" by GRF. Should we consider this the final word and that there is no possibility of this hapening, if there is no open discussion on the possibility?

Many times, it is not what GRF says, BUT, rather, what GRF doesn't say that comes around to surprise us. With the identification of a consultant viewing the area around Clubhouse 7 and stating that he was doing that to consider the possibility of putting models on our property, it might be time to question GRF's intent!

We can assume that this would certainly be supported by PCM. Since they do not have our best interest as their top priority, and are more interested in what benefits them first, an open discussion on this potential possibility should be presented by GRF ASAP.
 

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    • 9/14/2006 5:09 PM Watchdog wrote:
      This lease issue by Mayer was brought up at board meetins in April and published in the LW Globe. As usual this again was publically denied by the GRF. As usual the truth was that the secret negotions have been ongoing. Why on earth would the GRF assist in promotings sales of a COMPETITOR while our own condo sales diminish.Gosh who has to gain? Again if our managing agent promotes this travesty a complaint should be filed with the State department of RE as should have been done in 1996 and 2004. HINT what is a conflict of interest?
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    • 8/21/2007 9:49 AM Faye Pearl wrote:
      Any way to find out how Human Resources "saved" us enough to warrant the following:

      Incentives 700 Human Resources $11,964.47.

      And who in Human Resources was the recipient?
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    • 8/22/2007 10:33 AM Faye Pearl wrote:
      Janet Price in the Los Angeles Times referring to money spent on meals: "We think they're quite reasonable and quite ethical," she said.


      Claim Jumpers $988 lunch for 28 foremen = $35.28 per person. The MOST expensive lunch I could find on the menu is:

      MOTHERLODE LUNCH BUFFET 21.95
      Rotisserie Chicken, Hickory Roasted Prime Rib, House Salad, Caesar Salad, Mashed Potatoes,Vegetables,
      Bread Choice and Dessert Buffet. ADD $1.00 PER PERSON TO SUBSTITUTE HOUSE OR CAESAR SALAD
      WITH CRISPY SPINACH SALAD, CALIFORNIA CITRUS SALAD, OR CANDIED WALNUT & ASIAN PEAR SALAD
      Add Chocolate Chip Cookies & Chocolate Walnut Brownies to Any Buffet Listed Above
      2.50 per person

      This is not “quite reasonable”. It’s more like taking advantage of someone else’s piggy bank.
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    • 8/31/2007 2:01 PM commenter wrote:
      I do not understand what it is you are proposing because I do not think that you can run the development nor do I think you can easily replace management. So what is left: an oversight committee with a negative viewpoint guaranteed to reduce all property values with unfavorable notoriety.

      Therefore, I propose the following:

      (1) You get your facts straight or pay for a forensic audit out of your pocket;

      (2) If any laws have been violated, I suggest that you engage legal counsel for an opinion letter;

      (3) If you find you have "provable damages," then you institute a class action lawsuit to recover said damages and make the community whole again;

      (4) Insure yourself against a lawsuit for provable damages related to any libel/slander or other malfeasance on your part;

      (5) Proceed.

      Then you can criticize the present management to your heart's content ... without further impacting home sales within the community.

      It seem to me that all you have to do is prepare a mailing to each and every resident requesting donations (assuming you have the legal and financial bases covered as a legally-constituted association of your own) and then pay for said legal and financial expenses.

      Oh, by-the-way, I understand you are soliciting and collecting funds for this project at the present time. Please post your tax-id and I would be pleased to make a contribution.

      Thank you.
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      1. 8/31/2007 3:53 PM Connie wrote:
        Dear Commenter: In responce to some of your comments.

        1). The "facts" are straight! They are from documentation provided by PCM. IF you have reviewed this documentation and can explain all the potential problems that the Board of Directors should be aware of then, "You're Right," there is no need for a "forensic" audit. To date we have found no one who can (or wants to) do the work that a "detailed/forensic" audit would be expected to provide. Do you concur with the Staff Expenses and Bonuses?

        2) Laws have been violated and it would be ideal if our corporate attorney would step up and write an opinion letter, but, the onus is placed on the residents as you are aware, and if you have ever hired an attorney, you know what that cost entails. The "Discovery Group" has funded getting the CC&Rs certified and Residents Voice has distributed the Letter of Certification to interested residents. What's your take on CC&Rs?

        3) Provable damages are not the easiest thing for the average resident to extract from the records that are made available. Residents Voice's intent is in making things visible so that the responsible parties, the Boards, will take the appropriate action to comply with their fiduciary responsibility.

        4) Sounds like a threat, but I'll take it as good advice.

        "Oh! By-the-way," you'll have to get your facts correct, Residents Voice is not soliciting money for "this project" whatever this project is. Residents Voice makes available to residents, handouts of the corporate documentation and records. A freewill donation is taken at their meetings to cover these costs. I'm sorry they are not deductible, but if you care to avail yourself of the Residents Voice documentation, we'll gladly accept your donation, or, we will provide it at no cost to you.
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    • 9/3/2007 9:17 AM commenterII wrote:
      Connie avoided the following:

      1. Commenter said "I do not understand what it is you are proposing" but because commenter didn't put a number on it, you did not address it.

      2. Commenter said "I do not think you can run the development" ....

      3. Commenter said "nor do I think you can easily replace management"....

      4. Commenter stated "what is left; an oversight committee with a negative viewpoint guaranteed to reduce all property values with unfavorable notoriety" and once again you were silent.

      5. Connie asked if commenter "concurred with Staff Expenses and Bonuses" well this commenter says both are normal expense items in business. What you discovered is the contract did not define who is to pay for these items. RV has brought this to everyone's attention. Now the contract has defined it. DONE. MOVE ON. No need for a forensic audit that would be too costly. Thanks to RV we have improved the process. That has to be the end game. Beating on this issue anymore leads me to believe you and Pam are on a gigantic ego trip. Get a life.

      6. If laws have been violated, there are legal processes to address that. Since you are not a lawyer, you should avoid getting involved before you set off some detrimental unintended consequences that you have no way of anticipating. This is a minefield - keep out.

      7. Provable damages may involve what RV has caused to the LWV resale values. The real estate professionals know best what outside buyers are saying about our "Big Problems" that they have read about in the press. You have a handful of loyal groupies but there are thousands of us who do not approve of your current tactics. MOVE ON and let the process you started be completed by the boards. You can sit back and take credit for it, unless you are on an ego trip.

      8. Your ignorance of the law may be best protected by taking commenter’s advice to insure yourself.”

      9. The admission that you made speaks volumes i.e. “whatever this project is.”

      CommenterII
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